Lila: An Inquiry Into Morals [Robert M. Pirsig] on *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. The author of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. This is what Robert Pirsig concludes in his first book, Zen And the Art of Motorcycle maintenance. Quality can’t be defined because definitions. At 78, Robert Pirsig, probably the most widely read philosopher alive, van up into the mountains and started to write Lila, my second book.’.
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Refresh and try again. Open Preview See a Problem? Thanks for telling us about the problem. Return to Book Page. Preview — Lila pirsit Robert M. In this best-selling new book, his first in seventeen years, Robert M. Pirsig, author of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenancetakes us on a poignant and passionate journey as mysterious and compelling as his first life-changing work.
Instead of a motorcycle, a sailboat carries his philosopher-narrator Phaedrus down the Hudson River as winter closes in. Along the way In this best-selling new book, his first in lia years, Robert M. Along the way lilz picks up a most unlikely traveling companion: In Lila Robert M. Pirsig has crafted a unique work of adventure and ideas that examines the essential issues of the nineties as his previous classic did the seventies.
Paperbackpages. Published November lilw by Bantam first published Pulitzer Prize Nominee for Fiction To see what your friends thought of this book, please sign up. To ask other readers questions about Lilaplease sign up. Lists with This Book. Aug 28, Greg rated it liked it Shelves: It took me a long time to read this book, and I’m not sure how much these disparate readings affected pirsog overall impression of the book. Pirsig doesn’t have a narrative structure, he wanders.
And these wanderings tend to circle back around and all tie in to a greater point or idea he’s trying to get to the root of. Leaving the book for days or weeks at a time makes it hard to follow that strand and keep a sense of how the ideas you’re reading about tie into the overall purpose of pirsih book. Zen i It took me a long time to read this book, and I’m not sure how much these disparate readings affected my overall impression of the book.
Zen is one of my all time favorite books and had a profound impact on my person. It could be that i’m an older more discerning reader these days, and that maybe if I read Zen again today though I have re-read it a handful of times in the past it wouldn’t resonate as true with me either. I am certainly more knowledgeable about certain matters of science that I wasn’t on my first readings of Zen. This was something that I noticed a few times earlier on in Lila.
I found myself disagreeing with some things Pirsig was saying and I questioned orbert it was because he was wrong, or if it was something I pirsgi wasn’t able to grasp yet. This is what struck me as different about this book. When reading Zen I found myself instantaneously agreeing with and seeing the truth of much of what Pirsig said, and the things which I didn’t understand in the book I assumed I would in time, after more thought and reading which I havebecause I thoroughly believed in the rest of the ideas i was reading.
In the case robrt Lila, I thought I understood more, and found pirsiv I had more disagreements with Pirsig. This was a first reading though, and having read Zen multiples times, I always get more out of it with each subsequent read.
It may ,ila a bit early to fully judge Lila. I’ve also wondered if Zen was simply more appealing to me because I love motorcycles and was able to instantly connect with that aspect of the book, whereas Lila herself and their story didn’t really engage me in any way. Pirsig’s thoughts and ideas fascinate, but maybe the pila he wrapped them in this time just had no appeal for me. I was also really disappointed with the ending.
My problems with the actual ideas presented were twofold. Certain ideas just rang false based on my understanding of the universe I’m being vague, i know, but there’s too much to respond to specifically.
Certain others I question the manner in which he comes lola his conclusions.
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Many of his ideas come to him in flashes. He sees the truth of it, and then puts together all the pieces of the puzzle to explain it. I wonder whether his reasoning is just a post hoc rationalization without any real merit. That he is just finding things to fit his conclusions, which is what makes the simple brilliance of his ideas so right sounding to him and to the reader.
I will say that my thoughts did seem to change as the book went on. I found his ideas about insanity really insightful. And at some point all his talk of dynamic vs. There seemed to be some sort of logical leap at the end though that jumped from the intellectual pattern being subservient to the mystic pattern which I think he equated with full dynamic quality.
In the end, I think this is a worthwhile read, though it lacked the cohesion of Zen. It purported to be “an inquiry into morals” and in my mind failed in a true exploration of that purpose. But it further explores ideas in Pirsig’s Metaphysics of Quality and even if many of the ideas he talks about don’t all tie together neatly, they are all mostly fascinating in their own right. For every idea I read which I disagreed with there were many more that I not only agreed with, but almost felt this great sigh of relief escape me because here finally someone liila able to express robfrt words thoughts I have not been able to do so for myself.
Because no matter how rational and logical my reasoning is, how much it is based on a deep scientific understanding of the universe, there is a point where certain ideas i have about morals and ethics and “good” come down to certain assumptions that I have no method or framework to explain.
At the base of all his writings Pirsig is trying to explain this same something and so I very much value his works. Not only because I lioa he is mostly correct in his assertions, but because I believe he is mostly responsible and thoughtful in his methods. Lilla appreciate that his process of explanation incorporates his understanding of physics and biology, evolution and anthropology, eastern mysticism and personal experience, and that he weaves all these different ways of understanding the universe into one grand idea.
View all 5 comments. Mar 08, Edward rated it really liked it. It was, on both counts. I think LILA is every bit as interesting as ZEN lils may be clearer in expressing its central concerns about what makes life good or worthwhile. Both books are travel books about an extended trip.
Phaedrus in ZEN is accompanied by his son, and in LILA he spends much of the journey on his boat with Lila, a woman he has picked up in a riverside tavern. Both are foils, objects of study,for Phaedrus and his speculations about constitutes quality in life.
The interview: Robert Pirsig
At the heart of the book pigsig an attempt to explain the world in other than subject-object terms, a notion that is at the core of language itself. Zen Buddhism recognizes this fact and warns us not to mistake our verbal approximations for the truth. All verbal constructs are illusory even this sentence. That in turn has led to all of the inventions that make up our lives in the west. He works out a theory that society operates with two patterns.
Artists, visionary political leaders, sometimes truly revolutionary religious figures such as Christ, Mohammed, and Buddha, see reality in a different way, so different that it shatters normally static society patterns and shifts society into new directions.
Where do they come from?
Insane people, however, are unable to function in a a static society, a condition that Phaedrus has experienced in his past life mentioned in both books as what is commonly called a nervous breakdown. These remarks are sketchy but I think they suggest some of the important ideas that the book takes up. Persig, I understand from biographical information about him, has a background in philosophy, but he is often dismissed by academic philosophers as of little consequence.
Not easy to do. The essential problem is summed up in conversations he had apparently these really took place with Robert Redford about exercising the movie rights to ZEN.
Lila: An Inquiry Into Morals
How can you make a movie that combines action with abstract thought? Der Autor Pirisg bzw.
Die falschen Thesen zur falschen Zeit. Generation in einem holistischen, ganzheitlichen Ansatz nicht in ihrem Fachgebiet geblieben sind, sondern sich mit ihrem Fachwissen auch in fremde Gebiete begeben haben. Ein paar Aussagen zur dynamischen vs. Ich lia zwar die wissenschaftliche Art des Autors, die Welt zu sehen, zu analysieren, zu katalogisieren und zu strukturieren.
Sep 18, James rated it really liked it. Post post midlife crisis man meets younger ;irsig woman. They travel down the river together. The convention is quite cheap.
Review: Lila by Robert M. Pirsig
But he never saves her or she him and neither victimizes the other either. It’s pirsg really sensual except for one scene. And the self portrait of the narrator is absolutely unsparing as is his portrait of the girl. She’s not a waif robrrt a femme fatale, but a complicated damaged person and him too. I really don’t know how Pirsig manages this. It’s his thing, isn’t it? Somehow even if substance vs. Clearly it means something to him and I, as a reader, found that absolutely compelling.
There’s a particular scene about three quarters of the way through the book in which the narrator meets Robert Redford briefly in a hotel room to discuss selling the rights to his previous book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintanence where the drama of the story and the drama of the narrator’s evolving ideas are particularly well integrated.
The scene is so lonely and absurd. The juxtaposition of Robert Redford and all that meeting him ought to imply and the anonymous hotel room in NYC in the winter and the narrator’s own crushingly lonely and solitary quest creates this huge tension, demand for an explanation.